tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4664957094233317169.post6929552517309718386..comments2023-12-26T05:33:56.740-05:00Comments on John Hanger's Facts of The Day: US Energy Consumption Lower Than In 2000John Hangerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06565915866938789295noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4664957094233317169.post-40311779779856861792011-10-06T21:54:53.441-04:002011-10-06T21:54:53.441-04:00You are right. The data does not include the energ...You are right. The data does not include the energy the chinese used to make something they exported here. The same is true in reverse.john hangerhttp://www.johnhanger.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4664957094233317169.post-44922095746822162662011-10-06T09:05:19.040-04:002011-10-06T09:05:19.040-04:00Do those EIA data account for life cycle energy co...Do those EIA data account for life cycle energy consumption of products consumed? I would be shocked if they do, which is a huge problem with these sorts of numbers. For instance, with respect to CO2 emissions, when you take into account "outsourced" emissions (i.e., emissions generated in producing imports), developed countries' CO2 emissions have increased, whereas if you exclude "outsourced" emissions it looks like they have decreased. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/apr/25/carbon-cuts-developed-countries-cancelled). I surmise the same would be seen in energy consumption - if the EIA is not including the energy spent in producing all of the products imported from China that we consume, then it's greatly underestimating our true energy consumption.<br /><br />With that said, I'll take any positive news I can get on the energy front. And it's good to see at least domestic progress, but again we need to consider life-cycle calculations. The more efficient appliances in particular has been great to see.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06343773804552944467noreply@blogger.com