tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4664957094233317169.post1039257919445895675..comments2023-12-26T05:33:56.740-05:00Comments on John Hanger's Facts of The Day: Al Gore Tweets To Ban Fracking: More Carbon Pollution Would Be The ResultJohn Hangerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06565915866938789295noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4664957094233317169.post-84548970470896173402012-05-24T09:03:25.471-04:002012-05-24T09:03:25.471-04:00Yoko
How do you view it as a criminal act of aggr...Yoko<br /><br />How do you view it as a criminal act of aggression?Concerned Scientistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4664957094233317169.post-71111415888348316442012-05-24T09:00:05.722-04:002012-05-24T09:00:05.722-04:00Yoko,
If you don't mind I have a few more que...Yoko,<br /><br />If you don't mind I have a few more questions<br /><br />Why do you see this as a dirty deal? You could still have sued. <br /><br />I have never heard about a glycol surge. how long after the wells were completed did this surge occur? <br /><br />What did the DEP say about the glycol surge?Concerned Scientistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4664957094233317169.post-32051638733653930412012-05-24T07:18:34.678-04:002012-05-24T07:18:34.678-04:00The "dirty deal" that Yoko mentions was ...The "dirty deal" that Yoko mentions was an order between DEP and Cabot that required Cabot to pay $4.1 million to 18 families for methane migration, an average of $201,000 per family. Cabot also was fined--again--in that order. The order specifically did not include other parties and litigation that they are bringing. This compensation and fine is by far the largest ever assessed by a regulatory agency against a drilling company.John Hangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06565915866938789295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4664957094233317169.post-58631592317416357932012-05-23T23:00:10.302-04:002012-05-23T23:00:10.302-04:00I forgot yes I did lease- manipulated, lied to, by...I forgot yes I did lease- manipulated, lied to, by the landman that preceeded the much better behaved gas company Cabot- you have no idea for sure what deceit, arrogance and negligence took place here so I suggest you learn a bit more-more than willing to help. In fact, intend to spent the next decade of my life exposing the people who aided and abetted this criminal act of aggression...yokohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12920254541187319563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4664957094233317169.post-33332073998273816102012-05-23T22:55:36.240-04:002012-05-23T22:55:36.240-04:00And you concerned scientist have taken the pledge ...And you concerned scientist have taken the pledge of allegience to the Oil and Gas Nation..yes I live in Dimock and yes I have had methane exceed even DEP's ever changing standards of acceptance, yes I am unhappy with John Hanger and no I am not leaving-I put every penny I had from 32 years of teaching school into this house and no I did not take the DIRTY DEAL CABOT and JOHN HANGER put together behind closed doors...any more questions Concerned??? Oh, least I not forget- I had ethylene glycol surge through my water 2 years ago(so did 2 neighbors) and it was the gas companies own lab that told me not to shower in the water BECAUSE it would defat my skin!yokohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12920254541187319563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4664957094233317169.post-49153865307439771512012-05-22T12:56:26.912-04:002012-05-22T12:56:26.912-04:00Gas is not perfect or great. But it is less pollu...Gas is not perfect or great. But it is less polluting than coal and oil that provide about 53% of the USA's total energy. The real world is full of the imperfect.John Hangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06565915866938789295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4664957094233317169.post-23597314885679574232012-05-22T12:55:10.924-04:002012-05-22T12:55:10.924-04:00Victoria,
The only thing that will catch up with ...Victoria,<br /><br />The only thing that will catch up with anyone will be the rampant embarrassment among environmentalists who are choosing to ignore the stunning inequity between the positive and negative environmental impacts of increased natural gas usage and are lobbying for it to be banned. <br /><br />Real environmentalists are out there right now, working to strengthen oversight to ensure that gas drilling is done correctly to maximize its benefit, not out posing with well intentioned but alarmingly misinformed celebrities pushing a narrative that will attract cameras, but not any sort of serious legislative consideration.Michael Knapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09678133434815647612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4664957094233317169.post-63506291928473668282012-05-22T12:29:14.371-04:002012-05-22T12:29:14.371-04:00I see his comments very transparently. As the old...I see his comments very transparently. As the old saying goes, "follow the money". He is heavily invested in renewables and therefore clearly sees gas as a threat because it is much cleaner than traditional fuels, but more cost-effective than the technologies in which he has invested. <br /><br />As even the link points out, this ban in Vermont is symbolic since there isn't much interest in whatever shale formations may exist beneath the state.Carbon Blacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4664957094233317169.post-73205099882958834442012-05-22T12:11:35.947-04:002012-05-22T12:11:35.947-04:00Yoko - You share the same thing every time you pos...Yoko - You share the same thing every time you post on this blog. I can see that you are very unhappy and that you blame John Hanger in part for your plight. But I struggle to understand where you are coming from sometimes. I have some questions for you that might help me understand your position:<br /><br />Do you live in Dimock?<br />Did you lease your land to Cabot?<br />Are you getting royalty checks? <br />Was your water contaminated with methane?<br />Did you take the settlement for double the value of your property? If not, why not?<br />Do you currently have a lawsuit going with Cabot?<br />What is keeping you from moving if you are this unhappy?Concerned Scientistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4664957094233317169.post-91057857960307979152012-05-22T12:07:01.867-04:002012-05-22T12:07:01.867-04:00Absolutely right John. It's really embarrassi...Absolutely right John. It's really embarrassing. People who know fracking is not what it is portrayed to be by the media and environmental groups are now going to be questioning the science around global warming more intensely. I have been convinced by the science on climate change but I am now starting to wonder how many "peer-reviewed" papers on climate change are of the quality of the Myers, Howarth et al and Duke papers. Gore is undercutting his own message.Concerned Scientistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4664957094233317169.post-5951428749879615742012-05-22T08:42:24.020-04:002012-05-22T08:42:24.020-04:00And another group of folks go on vents and water s...And another group of folks go on vents and water supplied by the gas company....maybe some people think that matters...the price we pay? Meanwhile the gas wells and compressor stations spew their gas into our air..spill, drill, spew. Eventually all this will catch up with the greatness of gas and then we will shake our heads and say "how did this happen?"...that stamp of approval you wield will not be forgotten.yokohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12920254541187319563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4664957094233317169.post-24242793607163420192012-05-22T08:00:12.292-04:002012-05-22T08:00:12.292-04:00Gore's comments have to be nothing more than a...Gore's comments have to be nothing more than a desperate attempt to maintain relevance. I've never taken him for a dumb guy, but that statement reeks of stupidity. Or bad politics, one or the other.<br /><br />Were the country to ban hydraulic fracturing, it would in effect ban most if not all drilling. Aside from the almost instantaneous doubling of the price of crude on the news of the ban, it would most likely double several more times after the flush production from ongoing drilling dwindles and production falls sharply. There would be rampant inflation, food shortages, brownouts, massive unemployment, people freezing to death in the winter and and dying of heat stroke in the summer. Farmers wouldn't be able to afford by their nat gas based fertilizer, run their tractors, or to ship their food to market. Thousands would starve to death. <br /><br />The opponents of fracing and oil/gas seem to forget just how lopsided the tradeoff is. Oil and gas are the tie that binds our society together. And while I agree that being so tied to two commodities is not in the nation's best interest, cutting off our collective noses isn't going to solve that problem. <br /><br />I encourage those who are proposing to ban fracing to lead by example and try living for a few months while boycotting all things petroleum derived.Michael Knapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09678133434815647612noreply@blogger.com